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LeonVa

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Anything to Add on This One?
« on: December 15, 2020, 08:51:10 PM »
I believe this subject has been approached previously but here goes.  Here is a bullet I know very little about and I have seen on very few occasions.  I was curious if anyone had anything to add to what I have seen previously.    I have only seen this bullet listed three times in reference materials and oddly it is listed all three times in Tom's Book.

ST-09-037
ST-09-063
ST-09-064

I have also seen this bullet mentioned briefly in a previous thread on the Trans-Mississippi Taxonomy, with a possible association to Texas Troops.  All examples I have seen have a provenance of Corinth as well as mine in the attached image.  These bullets are all tall with low rings and fairly deep conical flat tip cavities.  This one also has a distinctive cold pour line.

Comments?  Thoughts?  Dig Locations?  Additions?  JA3R?

emike123

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Re: Anything to Add on This One?
« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2021, 03:08:21 PM »
Stan Hughes told me they were recovered in an area associated with Texas Troops.  He had a few more than 3 back in the day, and he told me he put them in OxyClean which has bleach and whitened them.  KP thought they were painted, but if so the artiste used a different method than Robert McDaniel did, probably still will, on the vast majority of painted bullets.  I tend to believe old Stan but he is gone now.  Robert told me himself that he painted a lot of bullets for one person in particular for $5 each. 

Danny Spencer thought this was a .69 caliber version of MM452, the .58 "sharpshooters" bullet.  It was his that I sold on the commercial part of this site that caused the paint (allegations) to fly after he passed.

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Re: Anything to Add on This One?
« Reply #2 on: July 01, 2021, 11:26:03 AM »
LeonVa/Mike I have the TS 09-64 bullet in my collection. I bought it from Gary Pierce May  2007 and got a superb price. I also think which Jim is gonna cringe is the MM452, MM453 and this bullet could very well be a family of three bullets.

Mike, on the bullets Stan dug with the cleaning method he used and referred to as Texas Troops bullets that you mentioned, aren't you thinking of the .577 caliber bullet. Stan dug them in the 2nd and 9th Texas Cavalry sites in Corinth (I actually got to see the dig site). The one I have measures .568 x 1.068 x 474 and shows Stan's (RIP) cleaning method. The bullet I have is "Not Painted" and a great bullet. I believe Steve Burgess dug a couple in Arkansas and referred to them as "Cove Creek Minie's" and I am sure that is just a fictitious dig site so as not to give the dig location away. They were posted I believe in "Rounds of the Razorbacks".