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Relic Discussion => Bullets => Topic started by: XRdsRev on November 30, 2020, 01:45:28 PM

Title: Confederate Carbine Bullet - Identification ?
Post by: XRdsRev on November 30, 2020, 01:45:28 PM

Pictured is a .56 cal bullet that was recovered from Chantilly Virginia in the 1970’s.  I am hoping someone might be able to assist with an identification (It appears to be unlisted in M&M).  It does near some resemblance to a US Gallagher in ring spacing and the recessed base but it is a bigger, longer bullet with a cone cavity and teat  Unfortunately I don’t have any Vols of Roundball to Rimfire so I have not been able to check there.  Any help would be appreciated.  It is about 1.17” in length.

Title: Re: Confederate Carbine Bullet - Identification ?
Post by: XRdsRev on November 30, 2020, 01:59:01 PM

More pics

Title: Re: Confederate Carbine Bullet - Identification ?
Post by: LeonVa on November 30, 2020, 04:00:16 PM

It is listed in RBRF 4 # 326 and is also listed in A Handbook of Civil War Bullets & Cartridges as TT171D. Nice bullet. 

Title: Re: Confederate Carbine Bullet - Identification ?
Post by: XRdsRev on November 30, 2020, 05:22:30 PM

“ It is listed in RBRF 4 # 326 and is also listed in A Handbook of Civil War Bullets & Cartridges as TT171D. Nice bullet.“

Thank you very much for the information !!!  HH63

Title: Re: Confederate Carbine Bullet - Identification ?
Post by: LeonVa on November 30, 2020, 07:42:59 PM

Here is a photo of the one in RBRF 4 out of my personal collection.

Title: Re: Confederate Carbine Bullet - Identification ?
Post by: XRdsRev on November 30, 2020, 08:10:29 PM

Nice !!!  Definitely the same bullet.  Any idea what weapon this was for ???

Title: Re: Confederate Carbine Bullet - Identification ?
Post by: LeonVa on November 30, 2020, 08:54:51 PM

I'm not sure but perhaps someone will chime in with their thoughts.

Title: Re: Confederate Carbine Bullet - Identification ?
Post by: CarlS on November 30, 2020, 10:48:50 PM

Just to join the conversation when I first saw it I thought it might be a Tennessee rifle bullet due to the teat cavity and sub-58 caliber.  Keep in mind I'm a novice at bullets so no chuckles from the front row!   >:(  But that is a neat bullet.  I need one of those!

Title: Re: Confederate Carbine Bullet - Identification ?
Post by: Jim T on December 02, 2020, 09:19:37 AM

A rare bullet.  I have only seen a very few. 

Despite its slightly smaller diameter, it was intended for the .58 rifled muskets. Almost every bullet with a cavity was meant to expand. The most interesting and, to me, more distinctive feature of this bullet is the counter-tapered skirt. I tapers from the outside inward at the bottom.

I only ever found one of these. Unfortunately it was during a volunteer dig for the NPS at Antietam and I had to turn it over. Found in the Piper Orchard.

There are probably more of these out there...just lost in large bins of common 3-ringers.  It's always worth the time to look through dealer's bins of bullets at the shows!

Title: Re: Confederate Carbine Bullet - Identification ?
Post by: LeonVa on December 04, 2020, 07:43:27 AM

That’s about how I got my second one Jim.

Title: Re: Confederate Carbine Bullet - Identification ?
Post by: XRdsRev on December 04, 2020, 02:43:23 PM

Thank you all for the information.  I will post another unusual bullet  from Chantilly soon.