Bullet and Shell Civil War Projectiles Forum
Relic Discussion => Bullets => Topic started by: ETEX on August 04, 2012, 04:26:26 PM
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I have a few photos and bullets to start posting and I have just thrown together a numbering system to attempt to keep things separate ie. TM-1 will be 54 Cal MTE, TM-2 will be .577 MTE, TM-3 will be MTE deep cavities, TM-4 will be TME's (Trans-Mississippi Enfields), TM-5 will be Tom Green's and so forth. The numbers such as TM-3 and a TM-3a will be different deep cavity MTE's. I am just getting started so I will appreciate any suggestions or comments. Hope everyone enjoys and realizes as with any Enfield the MTE has the same amount and if not more variances in sizes. What I will be posting are a few of the examples in my collection as well as borrowed pictures from forum members and I will include the individuals name on those bullets unless I have been requested not to. Hope this will be informative and entertaining as this gets kicked off an going.
TM-1 54 Cal Marshall Texas Enfield .530 x .990 x 411
TM-2 577 Cal Marshall Texas Enfield .570 x .946 x 473 dug at the Marshall Texas Powder Mill by Coonboy.
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Deep Cavity Marshall Texas Enfields.
I have always considered a deep cavity MTE to have a cavity of .4 or deeper. I would like inputs from others on their thoughts of what constitutes a deep cavity MTE.
TM-3 MTE Deep Cavity .565 x 1.007 x 456 with cavity depth of .477 (Red River Campaign).
TM-3 a MTE Deep Cavity ..567 x 1.049 x 454 with cavity depth of .411 (Alexandria, Louisiana). Great cold pour marks.
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Trans-Mississippi Enfields are similar to the British Enfields but are very crude and found in the Trans-Mississippi theatre with most of mine having come out of Louisiana. Many of the TME's will have striations marks as well as the bulls-eye nose rings.
TM-4 Trans-Mississippi Enfield - .570 x .941 x.462 (Red River Campaign). Great striations and Bulls Eye nose.
TM-4 a2 Crude TME .565 x 1.081 x 577 (Red River Campaign). Extremely crude bullet.
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The Tom Green Enfield (Dance and Parks)(Anderson Texas). The Tom Green (MM-657/TT-164/RBTRF IV 405-409) was produced with a short/medium and long body. Mike was supposed to send me a photo of his Long Body but guess he's too busy. The bullet was produced on a machine similar to the Gardner with a flange crimped over to hold the paper. Some of the Tom Green's have what appear to be one ring where the flange crimps over and on others the body will be smooth with no indication of the crimping. The bullet was named after General Tom Green who was killed at the Battle of Blair's Landing with this bullet and others found at his troops campsites. Mike believes General Tom Green was extremely brave but lacking in comprehensive thinking.
TM-5 .572 x .869 x 417 Dug at Brushy Creek (Colonel DeBray's Texans campsite) at Crumps Hill, LA by Coonboy.
TM-5a .567 x .885 x 435 dug in Southeast Texas.
TM-5d Tom Green profile of a base marked Tom Green. (Mike Ward Collection)(I believe this was dug by Coonboy.)
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Great photos Michael, keep 'em coming!
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TM-6 (MM-631) .503 x 774 x 260
Dug Confederate Barracks, Arkansas Post, Arkansas
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TM-7 and 7A
Patrick Cleburne
.537 x .845 x 358 Cavity depth .225
TM-7A Mike Ward Collection
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TM-8 Rocker Base Sharps
.524 x .978 x 416
This bullet pictured in North/South Trader Vol XIV No 5 July-Aug 1987
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TM-9
Churchill .565 x .68 x 324
Mike Ward Collection
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TM-10
MM-268 Tie Ring Enfield
.572 x 1.194 x 588
Dug Port Hudson by a forum member.
Base slightly pinched.
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TM-9
Churchill
.565 x 68 x 324
Mike Ward Collection
Hopefully the picture posted this time.
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The above post pretty much took care of the 1 Groove or Tie Ring bullets. I will be starting on the 2 Groove next week and there are a lot of neat and different 2 Grooves associated to the Trans-Mississippi.
Hopefully all will post comments on the above bullets and add information that is noteworthy.
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Texas or Arkansas Hawg???
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TM-11 is a unique round ball found in Arkansas, Mike Ward collection
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TM-12 Delvigne. I let this bullet slip through my hands and called Mike to let him know what site it was listed on. I will always regret that. This is one of the few Delvignes I have seen with a good patina. If anyone in Arkansas has an extra I would love to pick it up from you. Just IM me.
Dug 2 miles north of Cane Hill, Arkansas in the winter headquarters of Major Whitfields Texas Cavalry.
Mike Ward Collection
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MM-13 Sterling Price
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TM-14 Hindman without Striations
TM-14a Hindman with Striations (Mike Ward Collection).
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TM-15 Cosmo Type II what more needs to be said. One from Arkansas and one from Louisiana.
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TM-16 (MM-301) Mississippi Rifle - this bullet was produced with a variety of cavities to include a small plug/truncated cone, dish, dish with teat, and I have seen one that is between a dish and cone.
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TM-17 Fagan-produced on a machine and made as the Gardner was. The flange pulled down over and holding paper.
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Lets try the Fagan again.
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When I placed these in Photo Bucket I had typed dig locations, sizes, etc. I guess when I post copy and paste the photos I will retype all of the information placed on the photobucket site.
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TM-18 (MM-291) - I have always considered this to be a Trans-Mississippi bullet with so many found in Louisiana and Mississippi. This bullet was dug by PIA in Grenada, Mississippi (.684 x 1.038 x 640). One of my all time favorite bullets.
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I will finish the two grooves as soon as I get photos taken and then will start on the 3 and 4 Ringers. Hope everyone enjoys.
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Gonna cover the Musketoons this evening. I include the MM-292 (Arkansas Musketoon), MM-293 (Port Hudson Musketoon), and the Jenkins Ferry Musketoon all as Trans-Mississippi Theatre bullets.
TM-19 Arkansas Musketoon
.674 x .971 x 533
Dug DeSoto Park, Memphis, Tennessee
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TM-19 A Port Hudson Musketoon
.678 x .986 x 593
Dug Boca Chica, Texas (Texas mainland) across from Brazos Santiago and the route Lt. Colonel Branson and the 62nd USCT and the 2nd Texas (union) travelled to Palmito Ranch (The Last Battle of the Civil War).
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TM-19 B Jenkins Ferry Musketoon
.693 x 1.033 x 636
Rhea's Mill, Arkansas
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Enjoying the heck out of this Michael. Any way for you to get the dimensions onto the examples you posted yesterday?
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RJ I will get them posted. When I entered them in photobucket I placed dig sites, etc and tagged the photos but the info did not transfer when I copied to the site.
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Here you go RJ hope it copies and pastes. I am having a terrible time typing. I got frost bite on three of my fingers at work and they are wrapped. Heck of a way to catch up on bullets isn't it?
TM-12 Delvigne .490 x 1.175. Dug in Major Whitfield’s winter camp (Texas Cavalry) 2 miles north of Cane Hill, Arkansas. I still kick myself for not buying this bullet and calling Mike and letting him whose site it was on. Best patina on a Delvigne I have seen. Any Arkansas diggers that may have a spare I would love to purchase one. Mike Ward Collection
TM-13 Sterling Price .482 x .838 x 275 only was told an Arkansas dug bullet.
TM-14 Hindman
w/out striations - .526 x .987 x 404 – Prairie Grove, Arkansas
with striations - .535 x .937 – Prairie Grove, Arkansas – Mike Ward Collection.
TM-15 Cosmo Type II
Left - .505 x .985 x 334. Crystal Springs, Arkansas
Right - .534 x .963 x 374, Brushy Creek, Crump’s Hill, Louisiana – Col Xavier DeBray’s Texans site.
TM-16(MM-301) .525 x 1.030 x 500, no location.
TM-17 Fagan .575 x 1.05 x 463, Austin, Texas – Mike Ward Collection.
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Mike,
Check bullets TM 19B Jenkins Ferry & TM 14 Hindman w/o striations with acetone. Looks like painted bullets. Maybe just your lighting?? Please let us know.
kp
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Ken, both the bullets you mentioned have a very hard slick patina with patina chips in a couple of areas and they have been checked. They are good bullets with good patinas.
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Michael, thanks for the dimensions & info. update, much appreciated.
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On with 3, 4, and multi ring bullets.
TM-20
State's Guard (found in different areas but Steve Burgess has dug numerous and in different calibers in Arkansas).
.484 x .787 x 240 Calibers appear to range in the .380 to .50 range.
Dug Shiloh, Tennessee
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TM-21
Baby Hawg
.535 x .979 x 398 (cavity depth .394)
Dug in Louisiana by a forum member.
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TM-21 A
Arkansas Hawg
.682 x 1.179 x 816
Dug Monticello, Arkansas at Camp Round Church in one of General Fagan's camps.
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TM-22
Texas Troops (Stan Hughes)
Cove Creek Minie (Steve Burgess)
This bullet was found in larger quanities by Stan in the Corinth area with Steve digging several in Arkansas. A great story goes with Stan and Steve and hopefully he will share the discussions and articles on this bullet.
.568 x 1.068 x 474 (Cavity Depth .308)
Dug Corinth, Mississippi by Stan Huges.
Some of these bullets have surfaced that apparently were suspicious in nature. I have also enclosed the photo of the Texas Troops dug with mine one of them in the photo after a good cleaning. This bullet has not been painted and I have checked it for those that question the validity.
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MM-22A
Texas Troops
.566 x .992 x 437 (Cavity depth .271).
The lower ring is almost gone on this bullet and it has not been cut off. I spoke with Tom Stelma several times on this bullet and his thoughts were it was cast with very pour lead quality. That makes sense to me and I go along with that assessment.
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Enjoy and I am gonna take a break and then enter 6 or 8 more bullets that will complete the photos I have on the Trans-Mississippi Bullets.
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TM-23
Baby Belgian
.573 x .910 x 440 (Cavity depth .235).
Dug Camp Bragg west of Camden, Arkansas in a 1864 fall camp of General Polignac's Texas Brigade.
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TM-24
Baby Austrian
.576 x .930 x 448 (Cavity depth .310)
Recovered Princeton, Arkansas.
See Tom Stelma's 08-045 and 08-046.
I would appreciate input on this bullet and everyone's thoughts to what it actually is or could be.
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TM-25
Large nose cast 3 Ring bullet found mainly in Corinth, Mississippi. I have just dubbed the name as a Texas Troops 69/70 Caliber due to the close appearance of the Texas Troops. Tom shows three of these in his book with all being dug in Corinth as well as mine.
.699 x 1.205 x 777 (Cavity depth .452).
Dug in Corinth, Mississippi by PIA.
I would like to hear from others that have dug this bullet or have it in their collections.
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TM-26
MM-407 - I have placed this bullet in the Trans-Mississippi Theatre due to most being found in Louisiana. We have had several threads on this bullet on this forum as well as the old forum. Welcome comments.
.584 x 1.012 x 419 (Cavity depth .356).
No dig location available on mine.
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TM-27
.565 x .965 x 474 (Cavity depth .265).
CS 4 Ringer
Arkansas Post, Arkansas
I only know of this bullet being dug in Arkansas.
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I have included the Gomez and Mills Multi Ring Sharps with the TM Bullets with the majority found in Missouri, Arkansas, and a few in North Mississippi. I do not have a MM-192 at the moment and the difference between the MM-192 and 193 is the presence of a band at the top of the rings on the MM-193. The MM-192 (TT 105) and MM-193 (TT 104) are both 44 caliber bullets.
TM-28
(MM-191/TT 106) 52 Caliber
.575 x 1.014 x 454
I have a verbal of Arkansas but not sure.
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TM-28 A
MM-193/TT 104
.471 x .805 x 247
Dug Arkansas
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TM-28 B
TT 103
38 Caliber
.402 x .701 x 141
Northern Arkansas
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I have finished what I have in the way of Trans-Mississippi Bullets and haven't covered several I don't have. I want to thank Mike for the Fagan, Churchill, Round Ball, Delvigne, and Hindman with striations photos to post.
Tom Stelma lists and has photos of many more that are under the Trans-Mississippi section of his book and I would like to hear information on those bullets. Most are forum members. I have only been collecting for about 15 years and I make a lot of mistakes and probably have on this post/thread. Any information on bullets pro or con is appreciated so one and all can become more aware with accurate information on the finest bullets of the ACW.
Hope to see a lot of comments, photos, locations and stories of the same and different TM Bullets.
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I guess I need to add the photo of the TM-28 B
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Sorry about that.
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Michael,
Thanks for the photos and information.
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Thanks Michael!
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I had a better photo of the Delvigne from Mike's collection and wanted to post it for yall to see.
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Nice bullets Mike!
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Miscellaneous bullet dug in Louisiana with the nose clipped and a hard amber colored material poured/placed/inserted into the opening. The bullet is listed in Tom Stelma's as TS 08-073 and states filled with iron ball (material in bullet is not an iron ball).
Just wanted to share an interesting bullet dug in the Trans-Mississippi. I don't have a clue what the soldier was doing with this bullet or what has been poured into the nose. Thoughts or comments appreciated.
.572 x .856 x 448
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I don't have a clue to where the photos went. I haven't moved, changed folders, sub-folders or anything in photobucket. Don't know when I will get the time to repost them, I go back to work today so it may be a couple of weeks.
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I reattached all the photos. Carl I will drop you an email about letting you into my login.
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No. 3 almost looks like a kind of machine groove bullet. Great additions Wes.
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Wes, thanks for throwing those bullets into the thread. I am still waiting for you to let me know what it will take for me to get one of your Tyler Texas bullets that you have hidden away.
The Dabney and some of the others Tom listed in his book are bullets I hope others will add some information about. Like the Baby Belgianette that Bill has and some of the other weird bullets that Bill has pictured in Tom's book.
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The Dabney Maury looks like someone screwed up a cherry and didn't get the lines quite right. Isn't this just another three ringer? Of course TM three ringers are going to be different because they were made by different people. While some choose to collect all the three ringer variants, I choose to stick to the obvious variants. Otherwise I would have boxes of them.
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Seems like I better take some pictures of my bullets from my article and in the collection for this thread. Hmm - weekend work ahead.
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Bill, looking forward to seeing your pics of your collection. I know Tom photographed or had you take pics but still looking forward to seeing the different bullets in your collection from the Trans-Mississippi.
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I have been talking to an old time digger about the Trans-Mississippi Bullets and I threw some questions at him on his thoughts on what constitutes a Trans-Mississippi Bullet. I listed several bullets that I placed in the Trans-Mississippi category that are not strictly and truely Trans-Mississippi bullets by my thoughts on what constitutes a TM Bullet and he agreed with the assessment. A good example is the MM-291 (known as a British Sea Service for years). This bullet has been dug in Louisiana but also a pretty good number have come out of Mississippi. Maybe this bullet should be classifed as a bullet utilized in the TM but it is not a true TM Bullet. Another example is the Texas Troops Bullet with the majority being dug in Corinth but Steve Burgess having dug several in Arkansas. Personally on the Texas Troops I believe it to be a TM Bullet with the Texas Troops taking them to Corinth with them. A bullet I didn't even list or photograph for the thread are the MM-263 through 267 or French Triangular could/should fall into a bullet utilized in the TM but also elsewhere. Large numbers have come out of Louisiana as well as this bullet coming out of the Wishing Well and at sites in the Eastern Theatre. A question for you Razorbacks are any of the French Pattern dug in your neck of the woods.
It can get down right confusing on some of these bullets like the States Guard Minie dug by Steve in Arkansas but I have a 44 Caliber Tennessee Rifle bullet dug in Corinth and have heard of a couple dug in the Eastern Theatre.
The MM-268 Tie Ring Enfield (some folks are gonna cringe at that) is a bullet I believe was used mainly in the TM but I also know of a couple out of Shiloh and would like to hear where anyone else has dug them or have a good providence on locations.
What I will go on record for saying is the Marshall Texas Enfield, Tom Green Enfield, TME (Trans-Mississippi Enfield), Baby Hawg, Arkansas Hawg, Hindman, Churchill, Sterling Price, Baby Belgian, Fagan, Cosmopolitan II, CSA 4 Ringer, Rocker Base Sharps, MM-301 Mississippi Rifle Bullet will all fit the bill as true hard core Trans-Mississippi Bullets.
Let's here some thoughts on this. I may have left some out or missed some but it's late and I just got in from a tough shift at work.
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Michael particularly, but the others as well:
This is a terrific thread and thank you for the time and effort you are spending on it. I hope to have more time now that I am home to consider all this information and assist with some pictures. In the meantime, my kudos on your work to shed light on this area of bullet study that has heretofore not gotten the attention it deserves.
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To answer one of your specific questions, I have two tie ring enfields recovered north of Vicksburg.
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My tie ring Enfield was recovered very near the Shiloh Church at Pittsburg Landing
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Thanks for the kind words.
I like the inputs on the Tie Ring Enfield so it is definitely a Mississippi River bullet.
Does anyone know of any dug in the Eastern Theatre?
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Mike and All,
This is the only Tie Ring Enfield that I've ever dug here in Arkansas nor have I heard of any others being dug in the state. Unfortunately it was fired and no drops were found. It came from a site near Des Arc on the White River where there was alot of Confederate activity in 1862. The few others I've seen personally came from early War sites in Tennessee. They may have been produced at the Baton Rouge Armory before the city fell.
Also found a French (M&M 265) on a combined Confederate infantry and cavalry camp that was occupied in 1864 near Camden. A few hundred bullets were dug from the camp but this was the only French.
Prior to the fall of Vicksburg and Port Hudson the TM Dept. was dependent on their sister states east of the Mississippi River for arms and ammuntion. It wasn't until mid-1862 that they began to establish arsenals capable of mass production (probably because of the loss of the Baton Rouge Arsenal). The bullets that are unique to the TM start showing up on late 1862 sites or later.
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Great information. I didn't realize how tough the MM-268 Tie Ring was to find until I really started looking for one. I was fortunate to have obtained one from a forumite but I am always in the upgrade mode. Again, thanks for the information.
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Mike,
A few examples have been found in the Fort Fisher area. I know of one that came from the water there. All the ones I have seen have a very tiny teat in the cavity. So small I wouldn't call it a tead but a bump.
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I'm not convinced that Tie-ring Enfields were a staple in the TMD. Have a couple been found? Perhaps, but their origin is likely the Cis-Mississippi. As for French triangular base bullets, they are found on rare occasions in Arkansas, primarily in Confederate camps from 1864. Not sure what their frequency is in LA, TX, MO, or the former Indian Territory. While they certainly were used in the TMD, I don't consider them a "true" TMD bullet.
To me a "true" TMD bullet is one that is rarely, if ever, found in significant quantities east of the Mississippi. Such bullets include the MTE, 2-ring "Mississippi" (we need to come to a consensus on a better name for this one), "Arkansas Hog," "Sterling Price," "Cosmo Type II" (need a consensus on a better name for this one as well), "Tom Green," "Baby Belgian," "Baby Austrian," "Fagan," "Four-ringer," etc.
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When I added the Gomez and Mills Multi Ring/Groove Sharps to the taxonomy I didn't have a MM-192 at the time. The true MM-192 (TT 105) has no large band at the top of the grooves. I have classified the TT 104 in my collection as a MM-192var having the band above the grooves. I have attached photos of the MM-192 as well as a MM-192/TT 104 side by side to show the difference without the band and with the band above the grooves.
TM-28A1
.481 x .869 x 290
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TM-28A1 left
.481 x .869 x 290
TM-28 right
.471 x .805 x 247
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