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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: speedenforcer on September 08, 2018, 08:38:28 PM

Title: Famous Photograph
Post by: speedenforcer on September 08, 2018, 08:38:28 PM
I wish I could post the picture but cant. Everyone one on here knows the famous photo. I'm speaking of one of the Gettysburg photos, the one that is a close up of a dead reb, his abdomen is ripped open and his hand is blown off and is lying beside him with a canteen in the foreground and his musket is lying across his legs with bayonet attached. Yall have seen it. My question is, Is that an un-detonated 10 pound parrot round lying in the background next to his body? I never noticed it before.
Title: Re: Famous Photograph
Post by: CarlS on September 09, 2018, 11:03:20 AM
I suspect you are referring to the one below I snipped from the full image.  And I'd say that it is indeed a Parrott shell.  Unfortunately the graininess and size doesn't allow (me at least) the ability to discern if it is a Parrott, Read-Parrott or Read but I'd say from the shell's profile it is a Parrott or Read-Parrott.  If we could find a high resolution scan of the original then we could probably tell more detail about the sabot.

The full image is here (Warning: Not for weak of stomach):
    https://allthatsinteresting.com/battle-of-gettysburg-photos#6
Title: Re: Famous Photograph
Post by: speedenforcer on September 09, 2018, 07:56:04 PM
It is a well known fact that some of the photos at Gettysburg were staged. To me this appears to be staged as well. Although it is a real dead body I think the whole rifle laying cross his legs and the shell laying the way it is just appears to me to be staged. Opinions?
Title: Re: Famous Photograph
Post by: pipedreamer65 on September 10, 2018, 08:08:22 AM
Agreed, completely staged.  The weapon is probably a prop along with the projectile.  There are accounts of photographers dragging the same body around to pose in different shots at gettysburg (IE: famous home of the sharpshooter image at Devils Den).  By the time they got there, many of the bodies were buried in several sectors of the battlefield. 
Title: Re: Famous Photograph
Post by: speedenforcer on September 10, 2018, 12:05:27 PM
Do to the condition of the body I do not believe it was moved around the battlefield like the "Sharpshooter" was. I think the location of the photograph IS the spot of his demise. The photographer did take the liberty of adding props however. That's my opinion.
Title: Re: Famous Photograph
Post by: pipedreamer65 on September 10, 2018, 06:11:50 PM
Lol, no i don't think that body was drug around.  Yuck
Title: Re: Famous Photograph
Post by: Lamar on September 10, 2018, 07:49:28 PM
Here's the link to an extremely comprehensive study on the Devil's Den sharpshooter photos -

http://www.jamescgroves.com/henry/summary.htm

It may have been posted on here years ago.  You gotta really be interested to read the whole thing - but, if you do, you'll be convinced the body was found at DD, & then dragged downhill for the other set of pictures.  The Gettysburg National Park's official position is that the body was dragged uphill - but the rangers (or at least the ones I'm aware of) disagree.