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Mason Jarr

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More from the Indian War Fort Site
« on: October 19, 2021, 02:16:23 PM »
I'm back with another group of bullets. I've looked in the T&T Handbook and these seem similar to the #110 listed, but they are heavier than the #110 and don't have a "punch mark in the base". Best one measured .548 dia, .927 length and weighs 451gr. Solid base, two rings. Thanks for any help. I appreciate the IDs thus far.
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emike123

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Re: More from the Indian War Fort Site
« Reply #1 on: October 19, 2021, 05:19:15 PM »
I believe these are Sharps bullets.

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Re: More from the Indian War Fort Site
« Reply #2 on: October 19, 2021, 05:34:39 PM »
They look more like #111 to me. The small differences in weight etc. may fall within the accepted tolerances of the time.

Mason Jarr

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Re: More from the Indian War Fort Site
« Reply #3 on: October 19, 2021, 06:07:39 PM »
They look more like #111 to me. The small differences in weight etc. may fall within the accepted tolerances of the time.

#111 seems to have a significant distance between the base and the first ring. It looks like the ones I found have a smaller distance between those features. I'm not certain from the words in the T&T handbook, but mine says, "Records indicate that Richmond initially made their Sharps bullets too small in diameter." I took this to mean that #111 was a Southern manufactured bullet. Do you think the soldiers manning the forts out west would have been using Southern manufactured bullets?

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Re: More from the Indian War Fort Site
« Reply #4 on: October 19, 2021, 07:23:47 PM »
I stand corrected, I highly doubt any CS mfg bullets were used in the western Indian wars. With out giving up any good hunting areas, can you say where about you found these?

Mason Jarr

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Re: More from the Indian War Fort Site
« Reply #5 on: October 19, 2021, 07:47:22 PM »
I stand corrected, I highly doubt any CS mfg bullets were used in the western Indian wars. With out giving up any good hunting areas, can you say where about you found these?

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vcorps70

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Re: More from the Indian War Fort Site
« Reply #6 on: October 19, 2021, 09:55:24 PM »
Yeah, no CS troops in the North West. Must be another Sharps variant. Friends and I picked up a couple of rounded nose Sharps variants near the old Benicia Arsenal back in the 80?s.

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Re: More from the Indian War Fort Site
« Reply #7 on: October 19, 2021, 11:47:06 PM »
Another possibility, might this be a post war, metallic cartridge Sharps round? I have no reference books for post 1865. Any shell casings from this site?

Mason Jarr

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Re: More from the Indian War Fort Site
« Reply #8 on: October 20, 2021, 10:05:52 AM »
Another possibility, might this be a post war, metallic cartridge Sharps round? I have no reference books for post 1865. Any shell casings from this site?

Yes, I've found .56-50, .50-70 and .44 Henry there.

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Re: More from the Indian War Fort Site
« Reply #9 on: October 20, 2021, 11:46:49 AM »
They look like 56-56 Spencer bullets to me.

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Re: More from the Indian War Fort Site
« Reply #10 on: October 20, 2021, 02:56:28 PM »
They look like 56-56 Spencer bullets to me.

I considered that, but the .56-56 bullet was around 350-360gr.

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Re: More from the Indian War Fort Site
« Reply #11 on: October 20, 2021, 03:14:27 PM »
Here's a cartridge I found at another location that I'm pretty certain is a .56-56 Spencer. I've laid one of the bullets I'm trying to get an ID for underneath it. I know they used more than one type of bullet, but these two aren't a match.