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Jim T

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M&M Commentary -- 203 to 254
« on: January 13, 2012, 02:19:49 PM »
203-207 -- Sharps.  Quite a variety in the cavities found in this "new model" pattern.  The deep cone cavities are among the harder to find.
208 -- Large Tower pattern.
211 -- Of the machine pressed & turned variety, with no grooves.  These are not Prussian, they were not cast in wood moulds!
212 -- is this even a bullet?
213 -- Tower pattern, probably made in Atlanta.
214 & 215 -- English Tower pattern.
216 -- Probably for the Brunswick rifle, from Charleston.
217 -- CS made.
218 -- fired from a 2-groove Brunswick.
219 -- could be a fired "stretchie," otherwise this & 220 are for .55 Austrian & .54 US rifles.
221-246 -- Enfields, ho-hum.  The rarer of the English plug cavity types are the "S"  "P"  "55".  Those numbered 1 thru 9 are probably not from American CW sites.
247 -- Enfield, from Marshall, TX.  The deep cavity of these is the rarest.
248 -- ?
249 -- fired & deformed.  Probably not an incendiary bullet.
250 -- cylindrical Whitworth.
251 & 252 -- match-grade rounds, probably not used in battle.
253 -- fired
254 -- carved.

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Re: M&M Commentary -- 203 to 254
« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2012, 03:30:08 PM »
I have seen 3 different examples of MM209.  The discovery of one which its finder called a South Carolina "Thumper" bullet is detailed in a chapter in “Relics & Reminiscing: Diary of a Lowcountry Digger” by Richard Walker

Stan Hughes had one for sale once which Bill and I missed by minutes and clearly Reid McKee had one as shown in the book and presumably is now owned by Dr. Riehl.  They all have that distinctive nose blob.

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Re: M&M Commentary -- 203 to 254
« Reply #2 on: January 13, 2012, 07:01:59 PM »
Here is the closest thing I have found to MM209.  I think MM209 is a fired/carved belgian from a smooth bore 0.69 caliber musket.


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Re: M&M Commentary -- 203 to 254
« Reply #3 on: January 14, 2012, 01:40:10 PM »
Enfields HO-HUM :'( 

About 75% of the RBTRF IV is Enfields. I have an extremely large collection of Enfields and want to share the MM-233 I purchased from Terry several years back. I realize the MM-233 is a whittled bullet but this is as close to a match as I have seen over the years looking for one to place in the collection. The one Terry dug and I have measures at .537 x 1.078 x 379 with the MM-233 listed as .540 x 1.080 x 385. Just wanted to share.


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Re: M&M Commentary -- 203 to 254
« Reply #4 on: January 14, 2012, 01:45:45 PM »
Jim, I think the MM-212 is a heavy duty lead  sewingThimble or that's what it looks like to me  :-\

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Re: M&M Commentary -- 203 to 254
« Reply #5 on: January 14, 2012, 03:39:57 PM »
Etex,

Nice MM233, I have tried to find one of those carved ones myself.  Maybe that is where the one I heard about wound up?  Nice filler for a spot in the MM# collection anyway.  I have been stuck chasing oddballs like that for a few years now.

Bill