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joevann

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Not a Fuse Plug
« on: January 13, 2013, 03:12:30 PM »
This is one of my pet peeves.  It often shows up on Ebay as a Civil War fuse plug that was purchased from Bannerman's.  It is blued steel, has 2 spanner holes and is stamped on the face with arrow and the word "unscrew".  The attachments will show quite readily what it really is.  Beware.
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Re: Not a Fuse Plug
« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2013, 03:14:38 PM »
This is the pub
« Last Edit: January 13, 2013, 08:24:21 PM by joevann »

John D. Bartleson Jr.

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Re: Not a Fuse Plug
« Reply #2 on: January 13, 2013, 07:28:04 PM »
Joe,
   I am not seeing any of your posted images.  What is wrong Mike/Carl?
John

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Re: Not a Fuse Plug
« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2013, 07:39:58 PM »
John
The images are showing up for me, but are wider than the viewing page and require you to scroll at the bottom of the picture to see the whole picture.
Welcome to the group Joe from another IL member.
It is history that teaches us to hope.

Robert E. Lee

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Re: Not a Fuse Plug
« Reply #4 on: January 13, 2013, 08:08:27 PM »
Joe posted his images as TIF files.  The forum (or browser settings) only handles certain formats.  I know it handles JPEG which my pictures are in and it may handle GIF files.

That said, Joe's pictures are visible to me if I click on his attachments and open them. 

They are huge, however, as Jon noted.  The last one is 2794x4774.  Normal size is 600x600 or less.

Joe, there are a couple posts here about the steps for using a free photo hosting service that should work regardless of format.  There are several, but this one is called Photobucket and my rudimentary steps for getting a picture up are listed here (I think somewhere Carl posted a better procedure):

http://bulletandshell.com/forum/index.php?topic=317.msg1962#msg1962

joevann

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Re: Not a Fuse Plug
« Reply #5 on: January 13, 2013, 08:13:04 PM »
I'll fix it.

John D. Bartleson Jr.

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Re: Not a Fuse Plug
« Reply #6 on: January 13, 2013, 08:34:10 PM »
Dear Joe,
     Is this the one you are referring to?   It has showed up on the old Forum but not sure it has surfaced here. Thanks for the posting. Sorry about my labeling as a base fuze, that was before I knew it to be a primer.
Regards,
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joevann

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Re: Not a Fuse Plug
« Reply #7 on: January 13, 2013, 08:41:03 PM »
That's the one!!!  Apparently, I'm preaching to the choir.  Actually, it's a good feeling.  It's great discussing these things with folks that know what I'm talking about.

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Re: Not a Fuse Plug
« Reply #8 on: January 13, 2013, 08:42:48 PM »
  Joe, does the document identify the cartridge case and/or projectile in any  way, like, let's say, M47 AP?  Also, is it US-made, or British-made?  (The document is about the "care and use of the 6-inch R.F. Armstrong Gun" ...but it's a US document, so I'm unclear whether the diagram shows a US projectile or a British projectile.)

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Re: Not a Fuse Plug
« Reply #9 on: January 14, 2013, 01:04:04 PM »
This predates the M system for nomenclature of cartridge cases.  It is British made for the U.S. Army.  When the initial shipment of ammunition ran out, the U.S. made replacements were conventional cartridge cases.  All the terminology used i.e. "stronghead" is strictly British.

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Re: Not a Fuse Plug
« Reply #10 on: January 14, 2013, 01:23:36 PM »
The fuse in the nose of the 3.6" Schenkl shown is the same fuse shown on the top of page 97 of Chuck Jones' book.

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Re: Not a Fuse Plug
« Reply #11 on: January 14, 2013, 01:24:41 PM »
CARTRIDGE CASE.
(Plate III.)
The cartridge case is made of brass, to the form shown on drawing.
It is screw-threaded at the base for the reception of the primer adapter.
The cartridge cases of Frankford Arsenal design and
manufacture are not provided with an adapter, and its mouth is
closed with a lid, which is secured by three projections formed round
the mouth, being turned over three corresponding notches cut round
the flange of the lid. The joint round the lid is sealed by cement
to render the case perfectly air-tight.
The primers used in these cases are of Frankford Arsenal design
and manufacture and are known as the 110-grain electric and 110-grain
percussion primers.
A saluting case is also provided for this gun containing a charge
of 5 pounds of black powder. A percussion primer only is used in
the saluting cases. It is of Frankford Arsenal design and is known
as "20-grain saluting primer." A full description and drawings
of these primers will be found in pamphlet numbered 1881, published
by the Ordnance Department.

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Re: Not a Fuse Plug
« Reply #12 on: January 14, 2013, 01:26:13 PM »
Thanks, Mike.  I'll take a look.

joevann

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Re: Not a Fuse Plug
« Reply #13 on: January 14, 2013, 01:42:57 PM »
It wasn't on the shelf in my library.  I have a confession to make.  When I retired I packed up everything from my office and have yet to unpack it.  It'll be a month before I can tackle that chore since I just had surgery last week and i have some weight restrictions.